Ohio Bill to Ban All Pit Bulls Dies
Update: This bill has died.
Original report: Ohio State Representative Tyrone Yates has proposed a bill today that would prohibit the ownership of pit bulls in the state of Ohio. The bill requires all owners to surrender their "pit bulls" within 90 days of the effective date of the proposed law. The bill is unequivocal that the dog warden "shall" euthanize all pit bulls within 10 days of their surrender.
Also under this proposal a dog warden or other officer who has probable cause to believe that a dog is a pit bull dog, may apply for a search warrant. With the search warrant the officer will have the authority to seize the pit bull dog and surrender it to the dog warden to be killed.
Under current Ohio law a vicious dog is defined to include pit bulls regardless of their temperament or behavior, but there is no statewide prohibition on owning and keeping these dogs. The Ohio Supreme Court has upheld Ohio's current law. Click here for more on that. A bill pending in the Ohio legislature, H.B. 366, would repeal the state law that defines vicious dog to include pit bulls. Click here for more on that bill.
If you live in Ohio, click here to find your representative and call or write and urge him or her to vote NO on H.B. 568, a proposed ban on pit bulls in the state.
Click here to find all Ohio representatives.
Click here to contact Governor Ted Strickland.
Talking Points
Dogs don't bite because of their breed and communities are not safer unless responsible leaders address the real reasons dogs bite:
- Pass an effective potentially dangerous dog ordinance:
Assign dogs a level of potential danger, with restrictions and penalties for each level.
Require spay/neuter, education and training to encourage owners to take responsibility before a serious injury or death occurs.
Dogs and owners can earn lower levels and dogs can even be declared no longer potentially dangerous.
- Encourage spay/neuter and support funding for free or low cost spay/neuter.
90% of fatal dog attacks are by dogs that have not been spayed/neutered: There is not a single case of a fatal dog attack by a spayed/neutered pit bull type dog (National Canine Research Council);
81% of dogs involved in bite incidents were not spayed/neutered (Texas 2002 Severe Animal Attack and Bite Surveillance Summary)
Research cited in a 2000 Journal of American Veterinary Medical Association study indicated unsterilized dogs are 2.6 times more likely to bite.
3. Mandate spay/neuter for:
Dogs adopted from shelters or rescues or sold by pet stores or online
Dogs impounded more than once after being found at-large or off-leash
Dogs declared potentially dangerous or dangerous
Dogs owned by felons
4. Ban tethering or chaining dogs (also a popular technique by dog fighters to make the dogs more aggressive; the CDC has found tethered or chained dogs are 2.8 times more likely to bite)
Lawrence County, Kansas, adopted an anti-tethering ordinance. From 2005 to 2006, the number of calls concerning cruelty and dog fighting dropped from 800 to 260. Officials attribute the decline in large part to the anti-tethering law.
The USDA and even the AVMA has said tethering dogs is inhumane.
5. Pass and enforce strong at large or leash laws or enforce such laws and encourage micro chipping
82% of dog bites occur as a result of dogs that are running loose (JAVMA, September 15, 2000)
After passing a leash law, the city of Portsmouth, New Hampshire, reported a 35% drop in dog bites.
6. Address through strong laws and education the problem of animal cruelty
Well over half (61%) of fatal dog attacks are by dogs who were not humanely controlled, or who had in some way been abused or neglected (Delise, Fatal Dog Attacks: The Stories Behind the Statistics))
7. Offer free or low cost training and education about the importance of socializing dogs early and making them part of the family.
81% of dogs involved in fatal dog attacks were isolated and not part of the family (Delise, Fatal Dog Attacks: The Stories Behind the Statistics))
8. Pass and enforce strong dog fighting laws that make all aspects of dog fighting illegal and include bonding and forfeiture provisions; organize a dog fighting task force
9. Require dog breeders to register or obtain licenses, limit breeding by age and numbers, ban breeding for aggression and fighting, ban the sale of dogs in pet stores and along roadsides, street corners or sidewalks; require inspections of breeders' facilities and track sales of dogs by breeders.
10. Stop the cultural glorification of violence especially involving pit bull type dogs.



BSL is not the
BSL is not the answer.American Pitbull Terriers make excellent family pets,so do its cousins. The American Staffordshire Terrier and the Staffordshire Bull Terrier.The problem here is not the breed,its people that own these dogs for the wrong reasons.Many myths surround this breed,such as.
myths:
1. That an APBT jaws lock. That is not true,they have strong powerful jaws,but they do not lock.
2. The APBT makes a good guard dog. No they do not. They tend to be very people friendly and would most likely let an intruder in your house and grab a toy.
3. Is dangerous around children. 100% false the APBT is excellent and tolerant of children of all ages
What makes a bad APBT is people,Bad owners,poor breeding.
Best way to obtain a true quality APBT puppy is to contact their registry club. Which is the U.K.C (united kennel club)and have them refer you to a breeder. APR,ACA,CKC..ect....are not its true registries
As I'm reading all these
As I'm reading all these posts, I am watching my pit bull Meeka covering my husband in kisses. No agression, just a need to be shown affection and love. She is amzing with my friends 2 year old daughter and is highly tolerant of her typical toddler ways. I have 2 kids and think that pit bulls are tolerant of kids more than most beeds and just love attention. My local vet said to take her any time for a visit as she is so well mannered and she has recently boarded with several other dogs with no incidents. Unfortunately the wrong kind of people do buy this breed for the wrong reason, hurt them and make them untrusting of humans, hence the aggression.... I agree those are the people that need locking up. I feel the pit bull will all too soon become an endangered species due to being misunderstood.
i have two beautiful pits
i have two beautiful pits and they are so sweet and well behaved.. but i have to get rid of them because of homeowners insurance won't insure unless i get rid of them... i think thats a bunch of crap, my dogs never once bit or even growled for that matter and they love children, great tempered dogs but no just because the breed pit bull is labeled as a vicious dogs i can no longer keep mine and my dogs are just as nice as any other dog if not nicer. People need to quit giving pit bulls a bad reputation because they are truly great family dogs, it just all depends on how the OWNER raised them. so stop destroying this beautiful breed and start prosecuting the OWNERS of the dogs that are breed to be mean and fight. Don't punish the dogs, punish the owners that mistreat these wonderful pets, they are only dogs that are looking to be loved.
IM LOSING MY BEST FRIENDS :/
IM LOSING MY BEST FRIENDS :/
I have a pit bull that is
I have a pit bull that is turning 1. She is the biggest baby and is great with everyone. I hate when people judge an animal because of their breed. That is called racism in the human world and I do not think its exceptable for humans or animals. It is all on how you raise them. If you raise your kids right they will act right same as dogs.
pit bull
I DONT UNDERSTAND HOW ONE CAN PUT A DOG DOWN BECAUSE OF THERE BREED.JUST BECAUSE IT IS A PIT DOESNT MEAN IT WILL ATTACK.I HAVE 3 OF THEM AND I HAVE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH THEM.THEY ARE A GOOD DOG.I HAVE SEEN SHEPARD,DOBERMAN,ROTTY, ECT..AND THEY HAVE TEETH WHICH CAN ALSO BITE YOU.I HAVE SEEN SMALL DOGS BITE TOO.I THOUGHT WE WERE IN THE USA WHERE WE ARE FREE AND ANIMALS WERE AS WELL.I GUESS NOT.I SEE A LOT OF ANIMALS RUNNING LOOSE AND I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY PITS BUT I GUESS IT IS OK FOR OTHER DOGS TO RUN LOOSE AND BITE PEOPLE OR ATTACK OTHER DOGS.I THINK WE ALL AS PIT OWNERS SHOULD DO A RALLY AND ALL GO TO THE SUPREME COURT AND PROTECT OUR DOGS.MY DOGS ARE A PART OF MY FAMILY AND I WILL DO WHAT IT TAKES TO PROTECT THEM.REMEMBER THEY CANT SPEAK FOR THEM SELF WE HAVE TO SPEAK FOR THEM.PLSE CONTACT ME @ MY EMAIL ADDRESS THANK YOU TOM AND SHERRI
New legislation proposed Ohio HB 79
Everyone please send emails or letters to your state representatives in support of House Bill 79 to remove pit bulls from the vicious dog definition. This will help tremendously. Especially us here in Cincinnati.
pit bulls
i own a pitt bull and he is the biggest baby you have ever seen!!!! i have kids of all ages running in and out of my house all day and my dog loves them all. he love all the attention he gets from everyone. he has never snapped at anyone or bit anyone. i think this law is stupid and should not be passed
Please read again......
"Pit Bull" is a classification of several breeds (American Staffordshire Terrier - Bull Terrier and Staffordshire Terrier) and to ban this breed would be absolutely absurd. According to the American Canine Temperament Testing Association, 95% of the "Pit Bull Terriers" that took its temperament test passed, compared to a 77% passing rate for all breeds on average. These "Pit Bull's" ranked 4th highest out of all 122 breeds tested by the American Temperament Testing Association. The Dachshund has a worse temperament according to ATTS than a "Pit Bull". In fact, a "Pit Bull" is comparable (scoring slightly better) in temperament to a golden retriever. These are all FACTS!! As a responsible taxpayer, voter and proud owner of 4 "Pit Bull's" that I have rescued (my last from the pound in Meigs Co. where I reside) I can not believe that a state that I have lived in for the 29 years I have been alive would even think of such a ban. I have been bitten by a dog, a Boston Terrier, should this breed be banned? The answer is NO, this was one single incident by one single dog, and was anything ever said or done? Again, the answer is NO, had this been one of my "Pit Bulls" it would be in every newspaper and on every news station within a 100 mile radius. My "children" are inside my home, not tied up outside with no human interaction. Any animal tied to a chain, never loved or hardly fed will be a non-social able and aggressive dog. I would be too if no one loved or cared at all about me. You only hear about the horror "Pit Bull" stories because that's all the media wants to tell about. Does anyone care enough about the status of the Micheal Vick "Pit Bull's", I do. I go to Best Friends or BAD RAP animal website and see how great ambassadors of the breed are doing on a regular basis. It is so good to hear good media about this breed instead of the bad. I bet most people wouldn't be doing as well if they had to go through the hell these poor animals went through. But, as my fellow bully lovers know that is a Pit Bull for you, they aim to please. This breed strides to win your love and affection. I hope the lawmakers of the state that I and my love-a-bull babies live in will NOT pass a law so insane. Maybe Representative Yates should really educate himself on this breed and think of more logical laws to pass. Maybe do something about the everyday occurrence that I see at my place of employment - people coming though the pick-up window driving their SUV'S (with gasoline at over $4.00 a gallon), picking up their free medication with a cigarette hanging out of their mouth (at $4.00 a pack) complaining about the wait because they have to go to the Post Office and pick up their free check they get at first of every month. How about pass a law that would ban me from being an idiot and working 40 hours a week and paying taxes so that others can live the high life sitting at home on their butts! That being said please stop to this unrealistic ban!
Proud and Responsible Owner,
Stacy Hawk
Meigs Co. Ohio
i dont belive that pittbulls
i dont belive that pittbulls should be banded... its not the dog its the owner i have a pit for 8 years and nothing ever went on with him he has never been fixed if you train your dog and care for it like a child it will be a loving animal its any type that can turn so people just need to get there facts straight about it all and you wouldnt know untill you own one your self then you would say it the best dog anyone could have......
Still Upset
I have an idea. If we are going to racially discriminate against certain breeds deemed to be "dangerous" and ban them from our state then we should start discriminating against "dangerous" white, black, and Hispanic people and get them the hell out of Ohio. Starting with Yates.
YOU CAN HAVE WHAT??
IF YOU TAKE A TEST, HAVE A CAGE LARGE ENOUGH WITH THE LAND, AND FOLLOW SOME PRETTY SIMPLE RULES AND REGULATIONS....YOU CAN OWN A LARGE CAT(I.E. 400# BENGAL TIGER, BOBCAT, COUGAR) BUT I CANT HAVE A 80# AMERICAN BULL TERRIER?? IF I LIKED BIG CATS THEN I WOULD GO TAKE A TEST... SO IF YOUR SO WORRIED ABOUT MY "PIT" (WITCH IS AN ADOPTED NAME) HAVE ME TAKE A TEST MAKE ME BUY A LICENSE AND GIVE ME SOME RULES AND REGULATIONS TO GO BY AND LET ME HAVE MY DOG!!!!
vicious dogs
I am a heating and air conditioning technician.I go into homes constantly, three to five a day. I have been attacked or approached by several dogs. NONE were a pitbull! one german shepard, two labradors,and many chiuahua zhitzue types.they are all vicious dogs.uncontolled by there owners.
Read the story of one of Michael Vick's dogs...
http://dogblog.dogster.com/2009/03/09/from-fighter-to-lover/
come on get real
I do not live in Ohio. I live in South Georgia. I am an owener of two male rescue pit bulls. They came into a home of 3 labs, a rottie and a collie and most importantly a 7 year old boy. My son plays with these pitts two and three times a day sometimes for hours on end. They follow him every where. When he is on his trampoline they are with him. When he is on golf cart they are running right beside him. When he is in the pool they are right beside the pool following him. My house is know to have up 9 or 10 kids at one time playing at my house. My dogs are always right there with them. This breed is not the problem.... WE ARE!!!!!!!
GET REAL!!!!!
If everyone got in a wreck.....
So if everyone got in a wreck driving red cars would we get rid of red cars? Pitts are such a popular breed, there are just more around, which is why more people get bit. Dogs are uncertain animals. There's no telling what will set a dog off. When you own a dog you take on more responsibility. It just seems to me that whenever some kid gets attacked by a dog they are always walking around by themselves. Seems fishy if you ask me. I know this is poorly written and it jumps from idea to idea but I felt I should write my part. I purchased a pitt recently and everyone loves her. I've never had a dog that's behaved so well, with kids and other animals(except squirrels LOL). Bottom line is I get out of the military in June and I'm moving back to Ohio and I'm bringing my dog with me. This is from a military POV but I've done my part for the freedom of this country and I'll be damned if a state will take my dog. She's my friend and most of the time the only one I can count on. See you in June Ohio!!!!
i complety agree with almost
i complety agree with almost everyone on this subject...PITBULLS are not killers its the people who train them that are...it is shown in statistics that 50% of the one hundred shark attack cases are fatal...there's about 3 deaths a year due to pit bull attacks....and im not even sure if its that many.....WHY NOT BAN SHARKS????....they are proven to cause many more deaths are proven more dangerous than pitbulls.......
Sharks aren't the problem
Sharks aren't the problem either i think people should stay out of there territory people who swim in the ocean are just asking for a shark attack if your a surfer and you've been surfing for years fine but if you're swimming i think it's damgerous and STUPID!
And i think ohio is stupid to even think of banding pitbulls it's not the dog it's the owner.
Disagress
Read your history of Pit Bulls. They are working dogs and they completely enjoy doing specific tasks. It was humans that made them into fighting dogs.
SOME humans. Not all. There
SOME humans. Not all. There are good lines of Pit Bulls from reputable breeders.
Even the ones from the bad lines are not beyond hope. Just look at Mickeal Vick's dogs. The HSUS and PETA wanted them put down on the spot, but they were proven wrong when the dogs were given a chance and rehabilitated. One even became a THERAPY DOG.
I say ban the HSUS and PETA for being so close-minded.;)
2nd Therapy Dog
Another rescued Vick dog has become a Therapy dog.
Here`s the first one
Leo
http://ourpack.org/leo.html
And here`s the most recent one
Hector
http://www.postbulletin.com/newsmanager/templates/localnews_story.asp?z=53&...
Read the letter from his evaluator
http://badrap-blog.blogspot.com/2009/02/get-up-dust-off-stand-tall.html
And these certainly aren`t the only Pit Bull Therapy dogs.
There are many more.
Retrievers are bred to
Retrievers are bred to retrieve. Sheep dog are bred to herd. Huskies are bred to run and pull sleds, that's what their bred to do; it's in there genes. Pitbulls on the other hand are bred to fight; it's in their genes. You can't simply make an animal act out of its nature. It's somethings that are simply primordial and can't be changed by placing in a different setting. Pitbulls are dangerous, more so than the other breeds. And the reason why is because people are too stupid to realize it, so they go out and get these dangerous breeds because it impowers them to think they can control it. Symbolically speaking, it gives people a sense of strength and deadliness to walk around with pitbulls. That's why gangstas and thugs have pitbulls; it part of their intimidation, such as brandishing a large weapon. As for the other morons that simply claim their dog is sweet and "it wouldn't hurt a fly" bull[profane], "WAKE UP crackheads pitbulls are animals, you don't know what an animal would do." I don't know what the next psychotic human is thinking, much less, an animal. "Stop thinking you can undo what thousands of years of breeding has done."
pit bulls
Person commenting on January 6, 2009: Are you kidding me?!?! "Thousands of years of breeding" pit bulls to attack and fight?! That is completely inaccurate. Only 60 years ago, pit bulls were family dogs, like Labrador Retrievers are today. Pit bulls (actually, I don't like that term--it's made up and is derogatory) were on posters after WWI with a child because they were part of the family! They have been bred to fight only the past two or three decades, and even so, doesn't mean every one of them is violent. They are still wonderful family pets when treated as part of the family--not abused, neglected, chained up outside with no attention, etc. I couldn't imagine if I had one of these dogs and the state passed a ban and my dog had to be killed. First of all, they would have to kill my dog over MY dead body. This country is supposed to have freedoms and justice. Go live in a Communist country if you want injustice like this ban on pit bulls.
Maybe do some research
Maybe do some research before you start attacking poor innocent dogs. i bet you have a chihuahua or something of that nature. my brother has chihuahuas and they act out way more than my pit
Tell my 6 and 4 year old you will ban their dog!
take my pit bull please!!! She keeps licking my children, and cats and everyone who comes in the house! She viciously licked the cable man!!!!!! My cats are soaked from their "baths". She follows my children around all the time licking her chops just waiting for them to stop long enough to lick exposed flesh!!! OH my LORD my friends had their babies crawling on my floor and she LICKD THEM!!!!!! they ran screaming from the house!!!
My mother was bit by the dog next door, the mutt, and my teacher in 6th grade his 2 year old son was killed my "Lassie" next door in 1972. Some one I work with had to put down his cocke spaniel because it bit his 3 year old in the face....BSL for cockers, Collies, Mutts oh yea and my useless Pit bull watch dog!!!
Do your research or just vote for Obama.
Keep drinking cool ade.
Ps they have not been bred for "thousands of years" take any dog and do what any thug could do, abuse it,neglect it, don't feed it, isolate it, inflict pain whenever it sees another animal and it will become aggressive! then give it to some criminal and see what happens.
Frightening
[quote]it's in their genes.[/quote]
Wow I guess the Canine Genome Project can shut down and everyone can go home.
http://research.nhgri.nih.gov/dog_genome/
Who knew Genetics was so simple?
Frightening that anyone could be so uneducated to believe that.
http://www.animalfarmfoundation.org/pdf/DowdAPBTbehaviormanuscriptV4format....
[quote]Previously published bite statistics when groups are compared to individual breeds are unrepresentative as corroborated by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the American Veterinary Medical Association (CDC, 1997; CDC, 2003; AVMA, 2005). The current study has statistically shown, based on a defined temperament test, that the classification of dog breeds and dog breed types (breed groups), with respect to their aggressiveness toward humans is not supported scientifically. The complex and contributing conditions related to the upbringing of individual dogs are not considered by BSL and such laws unfairly target the vast majority of individual dogs, which are temperamentally stable.
The temperaments of animals are fundamentally and universally acknowledged to be influenced by age, sex, early socialization, early nutrition, training, health and genetics, while BSL only takes one of these factors into account.[/quote]
WOW... Have you ever owned a
WOW... Have you ever owned a pitbull??? Do you know what they are like?? Have you ever had your children or neices/nepwhews around them??
I have owned 3 in the last 4yrs & still own 2 of them.. The one I do not own anymore got hit by a car when he was outside using the restroom.. I am expecting a little boy in the next 3 weeks & am not one bit concerned about my PITBULL being around him. I know that my PITBULL will be soooo protective over my son & I.. The older one has been around my nephew from the day he was born, & the younger one has been around my nephew since we brought the dog home when he was 7weeks old.. Neither of them have even attemped to nip, bite, or even grawl at him but my mothers chihuahua has biten my nephew numerous times.. One of my friends 7month old little girl will lay on my youngest dogs back pull his ears, tail, ect; and all my PITBULL does is lay there and look at her.. He will lick you to death before he would EVER think about biting someone..
Soo before you go and judge a dog why dont you go own one!! Its people like you who know absoutly nothing about these dogs & try to ban them.. Its the ignornant people who need to be banned not these loving & caring dogs..
Do some research!
I wish people would do some research and educate themselves! Most of the people who are against the breed is ones who do not know any and therefore only have an opinion based off the media! The media is part of the problem. Any large strong dog which attacks a person is automatically labeled as a pit bull type. There are so many breeds which resemble the pit but are in fact no relation to one. What happened to when the Pit was considered a hero and a friend? Ex:
STUBBY, PitBull Terrier mix, WWI. The most decorated war dog in U.S. history.
When Pit Bulls enjoyed being the nation's most popular dog during the W.W.I era, there were no problems with vicious Pit Bull attacks. Pit Bulls were not banned anywhere.
America's first war dog was a Pit Bull named Stubby who earned several medals and the rank of sergeant for his service in W.W.I. He received a hero's welcome and was even honored at the White House. He inspired the U.S. Military K-9 Corps. He also went on to become Georgetown University's mascot.
I will never surrender my Pits and would relocate out of Ohio before doing so! They are my family and I trust my life, my childrens lives with them! They would die to protect us and therefore they are in return more loyal than most people! If the Pit is banned, then eventually it may be your "favorite" breed since these criminals will find another breed to turn into a fighting, killing machine! So therefore, today MY BREED and tomorrow, YOUR BREED! EDUCATE YOURSELF!
Really?
Are you stupid? Do you own a pitbull? My pitbull seriously, wouldn't hurt a fly. He's in no way dangerous! I don't care that my town has them banned. He's still my family and he will never be gotten rid of by uneducated assholes who have never owned a pitbull in their life and think that the only thing he's good for is fighting. i am 100% against pitbull fighting. Maybe that's why i have a nice, easy going pitbull. He loves dogs, cats, and people and he's still a baby!!
Coming on here saying that pitbulls are only bred to fight is ignorant. If my boy was bred to fight, why is he not vicious? He's LOYAL and would hurt someone ONLY if someone attacked me. Trust me, they know how their owners are feeling.
You sure have done your research(?)
Anonymous, if that is in fact your real name, might want to actually do some real research before spouting 'facts' he/she has deemed from most likely viewing too many rap videos. It might surprise you to learn that retrievers, sheep dogs, huskies, etc, etc, all have teeth and like all dogs, if not properly socialized, can be a serious risk for the safety of those in the community. You make no mention of labradors, which surprises me since they are deemed perfect family pets. Oh, wait, maybe you read about the first face transplant victim who had her face torn of by a labrador and now deem all labradors as being bad dogs. They say ignorance is bliss, so I must only assume that your life is absolutely full of bliss. I might also add that I am not a crackhead, or any other drug user and that yes, you are right in that 'pit bulls' are animals - however, are not all dogs animals. Facts, sources, etc, etc, where is any of this is your argument. Oh, media reports and rap videos definitely do not count.
I am sorry. Your statement is false
I am not a thug or a crack head. I am a hard working member of the US Army and a nursing student as well. I have a pitbull terrier and she is the best dog I have ever owned. I did not get my dog to intimidate others. I adopted her because I fell in love with her temperment and ability to love. She is great with children and other dogs. I take her most places I go. Even friends and family, who have not liked pitbulls in the past, have told me how much they love my dog. It is not in a Pitbull's blood to fight, nor is it in my blood to fight in wars. Its a learned behavior that is established by an owner. If pitbulls should be band, then so should every person that has been trained how to fit in war.
no
pitbulls are popular in fighting because how small the risk is for them to attack people. the dogs owners can seperate them from fighting with little fear of being attack... fighting dogs is wrong. its because these people who fight there pits that gave them a bad reputation, this and the strength of their jaw and the fact that they can get jaw lock.
my boyfriend found an emaciated pit in a bad part of town and brought it home to get it healthy. i was extremely leary of this in the begining, i have a 6 yr old son and i didnt know the dog and it was a pit. i was dead set against having her. now, abaout a year later we still have the dog. i have never had such a well behaved dog and i trust her around my son very much. this makes sense if you do the reasearch before you open ur mouth... pits were used for "nanny dogs" it was just one of there specialties because they are so people friendly. (ever seen the little rasclals. they had a pit nanny dog even) pits can be dog aggressive wih is why its importaint to socialize your pits.
as i said, i was dead against having a pit. but when i did a bit of reasearch i found out that my fear was based mostly in the 1 in 1000 circumstance.
Just a few points
Anon no dogs can get "jaw lock"
http://www.animalfarmfoundation.org/item.php?id=21&topic=17&item=63
[quote]Lehr Brisbin
PhD, Professor of Ecology at he University of South Carolina
“The studies which have been conducted of the structure of the skulls, mandibles and teeth of pit bulls show that, in proportion to their size, their jaw structure, and thus its inferred functional morphology, is no different than that of any other breed of dog of comparable size and build. Further there is no evidence for the existence of any kind of ‘locking mechanism’ unique to the structure of the jaws and/or teeth of pit bulls.”[/quote]
I`m not sure what you mean with this
[quote]i was dead against having a pit. but when i did a bit of reasearch i found out that my fear was based mostly in the 1 in 1000 circumstance.[/quote]
But if you are referring to the possibility of being killed by a dog,your % is way off.
There are estimated to be ~75 million dogs in the U.S.
There are ~20-30 fatalities per year by ALL dogs.
That # fluctuates.
That means that 99.99996% of dogs will not kill.
Fatalities by ANY dog are very rare events.
If you were referring to bites.
There is no National Bite Registry.
All dogs can bite.
90% of dog bites are considered minor.
http://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/dog-bites/types-of-dog-bites/
Pits do not cause injuries unlike other dogs
http://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/dog-bites/types-of-dog-bites/dog-b...
That being said,babies and young children should always be supervised around ALL dogs at ALL times.
Good for you for giving a home to this dog.
Dont speak when you dont know!
I am an ex dog warden in NY and a current dog trainer in a facility specializing in dogs with aggression problems. I have yet to see the “pit bull” act in the way you describe.
The other person who replied is right, they were known as the nurse’s maid dog because they were so good with children. I have seen much more problems with the Labrador retriever and the German Shepherd then I have ever seen with the “pit bull”. I in fact can’t remember the last pit bull I had in with aggression problems but I have had kennels FULL of GSD and Labradors. I put “pit bull” in quotations because most of the time what people call a “pit bull” is not a “pit bull” at all. I about guarantee you with the strong opinion about the breed, cant even identify the dog. So many breeds are commonly mistaken for “pit bulls” and this of course causes this perceived problem with the dog. The State of Ohio Dog Wardens are so bad at identifying the breed that they have listed a whole group of breeds that sort of look like the “Pit Bull” so they don’t have to do their jobs and figure out what is and isn’t. This would be like banning all shepherd dogs because if a problems with German shepherds (Dutch Shepherds, Belgian Shepherds, Australian Shepherds, ect….) all of the breeds have their own temperament. Look into it a little more and find that this breed has been some of the best narcotics and explosives dogs, assistance dogs and dogs named and heroes for saving their owners and others lives (Weela , Sgt Stubby).
AND KEEP IN MIND RETRIVER FAN!!! Ontario Canada banned pit bulls and then went on to try to ban the breed responsible for the next highest amount of bits, YES THE LABRADOR RETRIVER! Be careful the precedence you set. (by the way, canine population stats would show that these were the two most popular breeds of dogs, just makes sense doesn’t it?)
People always call my Boxer
People always call my Boxer a Pit. They say "Get your dog away from me. I don't like Pits bulls." I just tell them that, lucky for them, she isn't a Pit. People just need to know what they're talking about.
Huh?
Lucky for them?
Not sure what that means.
The Breeds commonly known as 'Pit Bulls" are wonderful dogs and combined they beat out your Boxer Breed in Temperament testing.
http://www.animalfarmfoundation.org/topic.php?id=5&topic=103
[quote]In 2007 at the American Temperament Test, "pit bull" dogs achieved a combined passing score of 85.5%.
American Pit Bull Terrier: 586 tested 84.3% passed
American Staffordshire Terrier:548 tested 83.4% passed
Staffordshire Bull Terrier: 80 tested 88.8% passed
Total 1214 tested 85.5% passed [/quote]
I suggest you have a look at the history of the Boxer
http://www.akc.org/breeds/boxer/
[quote]A Look Back
Developed in Germany in the 19th century, Boxers were originally used for dog fighting and to run down and hold large game such as wild boar and bison until the hunter could arrive. The breed is known for standing up on its hind legs and batting at its opponent, appearing to box with its front paws. Imported to America after World War I, they began to grow in popularity in the late 1930s.[/quote]
I hope you`re not a supporter of Breed bans for dogs that were exploited by people and used for fighting?
That would be really,really foolish because your dog IS a "Pit Bull" since it was used to fight in the pit as were many other Breeds such as the Boston Terrier.
[quote]A Look Back
Following the Civil War, the Boston Terrier breed was developed in the stables of Boston, Massachusetts, as a fighting dog. An imported dog known as "Hooper's Judge" (sold to a Boston man in 1870) became the ancestor of almost all true modern Boston Terriers.[/quote]
Addendum
[quote]I hope you`re not a supporter of Breed bans for dogs that were exploited by people and used for fighting?
That would be really,really foolish because your dog IS a "Pit Bull" since it was used to fight in the pit as were many other Breeds such as the Boston Terrier.[/quote]
Meant to say your dog has a history as a Pit fighter also.
The Idiots who fight dogs will be aware of that and if they`re not using them now,they will certainly turn to them if 'Pit Bulls' are exterminated.
Little correction if you don`t mind
Just wanted to correct something re Canadian dog bites
'Pit Bulls' aren`t even on the radar as far as bites go in Canada.
But now that this Legislation is in place all it takes is a stroke of a pen to name other Breeds that aren`t caught by the vague sections.
The 4 most common biters in Canada requiring hospitalization are Rottweilers,German Shepherds,Cocker Spaniels and Golden Retrievers according to CHIRPP which is this report
http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/injury-bles/chirpp/pdf/CHIRPP_INJURY_BRIEF_DOG_B...
which was cited by the OVMA at the Ontario Hearings.
http://www.ontla.on.ca/committee-proceedings/transcripts/files_html/2005-01...
[quote]An argument is sometimes made that, while all dogs bite, only a few breeds cause serious injury when they attack. Again, this hypothesis does not withstand scrutiny. A study by the Canadian hospitals injury reporting and prevention program examined the dog breeds involved in attacks that were serious enough that the victim sought medical attention at one of eight reporting hospitals. The study revealed that 50 different types of purebreds and 33 types of crossbreeds had been involved in the attacks, the most common breeds being German shepherds, cocker spaniels, Rottweilers and golden retrievers.
What about the most serious of attacks, those resulting in the death of a person attacked? Since 1983, there have been 23 reported human fatalities in Canada due to dog attacks. A total of 55 dogs were involved in these attacks, and only one of these dogs, an American Staffordshire terrier, would be banned under the proposed legislation.[/quote]
These are the Canadian Fatalities.
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=2387261
Huskies and husky type dogs responsible for 70%
Canadians were royally duped by the Media and their Legislators.
The Gov`t didn`t go on to ban Retrievers but many Labrador Retrievers mixes have been picked up and put to death because of the ban.
Ontario has killed ~5000 dogs to date.
Only 1 was a 'Pit Bull"
The rest were caught under the vagueness of the law and were simply mutts.
Ontario defines a 'pit bull' this way
http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/statutes/english/elaws_statutes_90d16_e.ht...
[quote]“pit bull” includes,
(a) a pit bull terrier,
(b) a Staffordshire bull terrier,
(c) an American Staffordshire terrier,
(d) an American pit bull terrier,
(e) a dog that has an appearance and physical characteristics that are substantially similar to those of dogs referred to in any of clauses (a) to (d); (“pit-bull”)[/quote]
Many,many mutts are being caught up under a) and e) including lots of Lab and Boxer mixes and others.
You are so wrong
WOW you need a history lesson back in the early 1900s pitbulls were breed and raised to be nannies for children and as time when they were work dog they are such great dogs and such a willingness to please so before you badmouth the breed do your research
pits
You are 100% correct! my son was attacked by a Pitt. Anyone that would leave their young child unsupurviser around any dog much less a Pitt Bull Is a n idiot. I value my childs life way to much to even chance it
Pits with kids.
I am a huge animal lover and an even bigger "bully" advocate. I have been around/with/owned animals all of my life. Personally, I don't trust small dogs (pomeranians, chihuahua, etc) like I would a pit. Small dogs have a tendency to bite with no provocation, and no warning signs. In fact, I am scared of my children playing with small dogs unil I know the dog myself. In my 30 years with animals, the ONLY dogs that have ever either intiidated me or scared me was small breeds and a lab. I know the lab was full blooded, papered and registered, but he had a history of aggression and was ever taken away from his owner. Another instance, a german shepherd bit a small girl in the face in front of my apartment. His owners did not have him papered, registered or tagged, and this was NOT the first occurence, but he was returned to his owner after a 10 day quarantine with no repercussions. Hmmm...but my pit, who was abused and then rescued by me, does not deserve to live because of her breed?? Other peoples ignorant and miseducated fears?? Maybe it's just because she could lick my daughters' faces off. I am confused. I agree with all the "bully" owners and advocates on here. EDUCATION is the key. Not the media. Not your neighbors or friends. Volunteer at a shelter or pound. Get you own first hand experience at a vets office, where those animals are obvoiusly taken care of and loved. Spend some time with a breed before you condemn it. I am truly sorry to the people here who have been bitten or have had family bitten. I myself have a nephew who has been attacked and bitten on at least 7 different occasions-NONE OF THOSE ATTACKS WERE "PITS". There was a small mixed breed terrier, a couple labs, a chow...But no pits EVER. And to Anonymous who called people idiots for leaving children with a pitbull...all I have to say is I trust my girls with my dog WAY more than I trust them with most people. I KNOW FOR A FACT that my dog would never hurt them for any reason. EVER. But I have seen her protect them. She doesn't even like it when you tickle our girls. She is so scared that "her babies" will get hurt that she continuously and repeatedly will put herslf between you and my girls and rather you hurt her than them. At least with her at home, I know there won't be a human psycho that could break in, kidnap them, or anything else...Quila would lay her life down for us. So I will defend her with everything I have. And, if Ohio doesn't want my dog, then they don't need me or my family. I will move if I have to in order to keep her safe. NO ONE will hurt her EVER again, and only god will take her from us. Do your research. Compare statistics. Really educate yourselves BEFORE you judge. In fact, check out my myspace for bully info, videos and links to other animal rights places at www.myspace.com/witchymom79. Any questions? Just ask.
And the best way to protect
And the best way to protect him is not to get rid of all that can hurt him. As you said, kids need to be supervised around all dogs. They also need to be taught to respect dogs (leave them alone if they growl, etc), how to react when attacked, etc.
And the guy whose "wonderful logic" you were praising? All outdated and innaccurate info. Simple research on the breed will tell you this. There are articles stating the carp that he has thrown into his post, though. So one must look at both sides.
Punish the deed (and bad owners), not the breed.
Sources?
Care to substantiate any of your opinions/beliefs with credible sources?
Claiming that a Pit Bull is
Claiming that a Pit Bull is predisposed to being killer, and it's in the blood is just an ignorant statement. No more ignorant than saying white males over 30 are predisposed to being serial killers and it's in thier blood to do so, or that black males are predisposed to being drug dealers and it's in thier blood. It's a profile and some people do fit profiles. Normally a very small percentage. Just like in the case of the Pit Bull. But do you even know what a Pit Bull is? Saying you have a Pit Bull is like saying you have a bird. Well what kind of bird is it. Is it a African Grey, or maybe a Macaw. There needs to be more said to qualify what type of bird you have. The term Pit bull is a generic term, normally given to several breeds of dog. First is the English Staffordshire Terrier or Nanny dog as it is referred to in England. These dogs are in the top 10 most popular dogs in the UK every year, and one of two dogs that have "good with children" listed in the breed standard according to the AKC. Check it out. Next is the American Staffordshire Terrier or AMSTAFF. Just a side note, there has never been an AKC Registered AMSTAFF that has ever attacked anyone. EVER!!!! Check it out at WWW.AKC.ORG. Next are dogs that just kind of get lumped in there. American Bulldogs or other Molosser or Mastiff type dogs, basically any dog with a blocky head and thick musculaur body that people can't identify gets called a Pit Bull.
So by definition a Pit Bull is a Mutt a Mix and Mix is NOT a breed of dog. So if you can't quallify what a Pit Bull is, how do you know you have one. It could be anything a American Bulldog Mix or a Mastiff Cross you don't know what it is. Unless it's a AKC registered AMSTAFF or English StaffordShire Terrier or AKC registred American Bulldog,you really don't know what breed of dog you have.
Secondly lets go to the Stats according to the American Temperament Test www.att.org
AFGHAN HOUND 161 116 45 72.0%
AIREDALE TERRIER 98 75 23 76.5%
AKBASH DOG 15 13 2 86.7%
AKITA 489 362 127 74.0%
ALAPAHA BLUE BLOOD BULLDOG 6 4 2 66.7%
ALASKAN MALAMUTE 188 159 29 84.6%
AMERICAN BULLDOG 151 127 24 84.1%
AMERICAN ESKIMO 79 65 14 82.3%
AMERICAN FOXHOUND 2 2 0 100.0%
AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER 586 494 92 84.3%
AMERICAN STAFFORDSHIRE TERRIER 548 457 91 83.4%
AMERICAN TUNNEL TERRIER 2 2 0 100.0%
AMERICAN WATER SPANIEL 7 6 1 85.7%
ANATOLIAN SHEPHERD DOG 27 21 6 77.8%
AUSTRALIAN CATTLE DOG 166 129 37 77.7%
AUSTRALIAN KELPIE 6 5 1 83.3%
AUSTRALIAN SHEPHERD 589 474 115 80.5%
AUSTRALIAN TERRIER 16 13 3 81.3%
AZAWAKH 1 1 0 100.0%
BASENJI 163 110 53 67.5%
BASSET HOUND 33 28 5 84.8%
BEAGLE 61 49 12 80.3%
BEARDED COLLIE 45 24 21 53.3%
BEAUCERON 11 8 3 72.7%
BEDLINGTON TERRIER 19 18 1 94.7%
BELGIAN LAEKENOIS 4 4 0 100.0%
BELGIAN MALINOIS 229 209 20 91.3%
Wow the AMSTAFF and the American Pit Bull Terrier
did better than the Australian Shepherd
And check out America's Golden Boy
GOLDEN RETRIEVER 703 592 111 84.2%
He did just as good as the American Pit Bull
AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER 586 494 92 84.3%
WOW!!!! Bet the media forgot to mention that.
Let's talk about the Media. I recently read an article about a women being attacked by a Japanese Pit Bull. They later printed a retraction saying it was a Akita.
Lets also look at the CDC dog bite stats.
They say that Pit Bull "TYPE " dogs are at the top of the dog bite list with 66. But if you don't know what a Pit Bull is ........ See my point. A lot of dog bites are missed identified.
Here is another terrible story from July 08
A black lab puppy mauled and killed a two-month-old boy Monday morning, police said.
Police said it happened while the parents left the child in a baby swing unattended inside their Tulsa home.
Tulsa Police said the 6-week- old black lab bit the baby numerous times. They were unsure how long the baby had been dead when an ambulance was called Monday morning.
When paramedics arrived, the eight and a half-week-old little boy was dead. A forensic examination of the body is pending, but Tulsa Police said it was obvious the baby boy was mauled by a dog.
"Let's just say it was apparent the wounds came from the dog, and we don't know what caused the death of the child, but at this point it appears to be dog bites," said Tulsa Police Officer Jason Willingham.
Police believe it was a 6-week-old black lab puppy which killed the baby.
The child's father was consoled by neighbors who gathered at the scene. The child's 17-year-old mother was visibly distraught. She was taken by ambulance to Saint Francis hospital to be checked out.
"The parents were home. There were several people home, three people at the time of the incident, obviously that's part of the investigation to determine how this tragic event unfolded," said Tulsa Police Officer Jason Willingham.
Police are not sure how the baby was killed without the parents realizing it was happening. Police said the child was unattended in a baby swing for an undetermined amount of time. They were questioning the child's grandmother, who was also in the home.
Is the Lab a Killer?
Any dog that is untrained or left alone with children is a loaded gun. We all went to school and learned about elephants an lions, but the animal that we are most likely to come in contact we learned nothing about. I have owned and trained what people consider Pit Bulls my whole life, and I have NEVER had a dog that just did a Dr. Jekel and Mr. Hyde transformation. Never. Dogs always give dominance and aggression signs early. People are just ignorant in regards to dog behavoir and don't recognize
the signs. Dogs are NOT BABIES!!!!!! Some dogs need corrections like a mother dog would give. Some
dogs require a firmer hand or a more dominant owner. Pit Bulls were originally bred to kill dogs. Dogs not people. Any dog that was people aggressive was culled or put down. How can you have a fighting dog that you can't even physically put in the ring or break up a fight if you have to. Case in point Micheal Vick's dogs were bred to fight., but some of the are now adopted to loving homes all over this country. These dogs were bred to be loyal and will literally give it's life for it's family. Anyone will tell you that a quality bred " Pit Bull" loves the hell out of his people. Petey from the little rascals was one of the first Pit Bulls in this country and a great example of the bred in it's pure form.
The Bottom line is all Dogs bite, from Akitas to Pugs. But few dogs love as well and as hard as the Pit Bull.
Pit Bulls were not bred to
Pit Bulls were not bred to be people-aggressive (because the dog-fighting owners didn't want to get bitten, obviously), just dog-aggressive. Because of this, they have to be socialized at a very young age and even then you have to be careful.
That said, my dog (a Papillon mix) was with a Pit Bull almost a year ago and they got along like good friends. We did watch them closely though.
Good breeders are trying to improve this by breeding dogs with good temperaments. Besides, not all Collies can herd, not all Huskies can be sled dogs, etc.
Pit Bulls were ORIGINALLY bred to help out on the farm. Holding hogs still, I believe. Later, selfish and stupid people did TRAIN them to fight.
Just because a dog was bred to fight doesn't mean it will. Yes, they will try to make the dog have the right temperament and body to do what it was bred for, but beyond that, it's all in training. You can't pass training in genes, it has to be taught.
Plus, canine temperament is 63% learned and 34% inherited. So, it makes sense that raising a dog the right way will make a better dog later on in life.
I have been raised around
I have been raised around pit bulls all my life. I have never had a problem with one and I have even leaved my 8 month old neice in the room with my pit and we came back into the room and the baby was laying on my pit sucking on her ear. Now does that sound mean to you? I can take any bread out there and make them mean. It is all about the training behind the pet. A pit does not think that it is ok to fight or that it is ok to attack other people or dogs. It is the way that they were raised. I love pit bulls to death and I would not change the ones that I have had and this will not change my mind about owning them. It is wrong to be racist to people and this BSL is just like that. These people are being racist to animals. Its just not right at all.
Exactly. This pic I found on
Exactly. This pic I found on photobucket has the same point:

my kids and pitbulls
My kids and grandchildren have never been so loved by and type of dogs before!! Pitbulls are loyal and loving family pets!! It is the assholes that fight them that need to be ban!!! Are you for real you want to kill all pitbull type dogs??? Why do you kill your little toy breed next and see what would happen.... If we aren't aloud to smoke anywhere anymore no this... Get a life... You could come to my house and day any time and my dsogs would love on you and that is it!!! They eat and drink out of the same dishes along with 2 cats!!! and they are killers??/ GIVE ME A BREAK!!!! Next it will be we can't drive fast cars or motorcycles!! My dogs love everyone and everything!!!! GO POUND SALT!!!!!
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Vote NO on the Ban for Pitbulls!
Pitbulls are one of the sweetest breed of dogs out there. To punish an entire breed for some dogs who were raised incorrectly is horrible!! If anyone should be punished it should be the people who abuse animals, not the animals that are bred to LOVE and are treated terribly by those people. Please, do NOT pass this petition. It is unfair and cruel. Many people will feel the loss of a family member if this petition is passed. You would never seize a human because of their race...do not seize these animals. Pit bulls are a loving and wonderful breed.